I know my life, and what manifests in it. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. You are very welcome, my Friend. If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. Lovely, Lo! Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. That is what I was saying. If you know, let me know! My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. YOU are the most important person to me. Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. What do you think? There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. I am not surprised this happened to you. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. Is it a similar power to the conjunction? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Hey there! Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. I wonder what do you think it would happen when nessus conjuncts nessus in synastry. 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. It is very, very powerful. "I want to welcome you to my website. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. Welcome, Britt. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. To me, it always is. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. Past Life Indicators in Synastry and Karmic Relationships - Astrology Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. I would have to consider the scenarios more. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. Synastry | PlutonicDesire Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Soul mate & karmic relationship point synastry - MoonsEye Astrology The chart allows one to see oneself. I think you will have the urge to abuse. . Thank you so much, Love. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. But I do see this possibly helping people with many bad aspects that could show any possibility of abuse in their own chart already whom have actually been through anything so that this can help them feel validated about past or current pains, but its not good to deem things as going to play out in time just because they havent yet in a long standing, healthy relationship. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. Eros: Synastry Aspects - I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. Do you have any advice for me? For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Any comments will help. What conjuncts your Aura? It would simply be different. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. If one person's Sun is conjunct Saturn and the other persons Eros is opposite Pluto, the contact will be quite different than if the Sun was conjunct Jupiter and Eros opposite Venus. Ami, hello. Thanks for your posts Ami. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. Can it be dangerous amiann? There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. I am not asking you to do mine either. as well as to the signs and houses. That is my commitment to my readers. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. . What would that mean? I admire your wisdom. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. Great primal connection with fighting lol. Lilith conjunct Ascendant Ceres in Synastry, Signs, Houses, Retrograde - Astrology Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. Our composite moon is at 26 Virgo and pluto at 0 libra. Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Hi! Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. Sorry, lol. Planets and asteroids will be modified when they aspect each other, this the possibilities are endless. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. It always starts this way. Powerful, you say? Lilith is looking for sacred sex. 5. Or can my Sun hurt the person. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? under what theme of the forum? With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Your Eros Sign Can Explain Your Weird Turn-Ons & Secret Sexual Desires It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. It is really rocking my world right now <3. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! The nessus and deja conjunction is in Cancer. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. Hello, what a great article, thank you. It is opinion, not truth. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. I, always, have people want to tell me that Nessus is not always abuse. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) In my opinion, it will play out. xx. This is a general rule, my Friend. The first would be Nessus. Oops, sorry Amiann. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. I am sorry. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. Not good, my Friend. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. Lilith Synastry - A Complete Guide To Lilith Synastry 2023 - Cosmic Deity His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. on Dejanira and Nessus. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT This brings out their dark side. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. It is valued! What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? Eros is also prominent in their synastry. Lilith conjunct Venus synastry This is a very intense synastry aspect Good afternoon, thank you for this article what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. Retro makes one thoughtful, so I do not see it as bad as many do. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). Pluto conjunct Lilith in Synastry | Astrologers' Community We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. That`s very interesting information. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. Do you know what these aspects could mean? I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. Groom conjunct the Vertex. lol. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . Is it relevant? The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. YES. Sun Conjunct Lilith Meaning | Ryan Hart The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. Thank you =). Did you know I had one? Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. Moon Conjunct Eros: Natal, Synastry, Transit | Astrology.com Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. All of astrology is neutral. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! I'm so cappy Knowflake . Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. Hi Ami. It is like sky diving. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. My main point is reflection. Not sure which one id prefer. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. He was considered irresistible. To be honest, few people overcome Nessus. This totally depends on someone as a person. This isn't always a bad thing, however. Thank you, amiann. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. Is this a synastry, Ariel? If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. 8. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. Hardly. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). Thank You so much for this info. Partners switch roles? Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. 3. I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. there is no contact in real life anymore but the connection via the sexual chakra (either sacral or root chakra ) is still there and very strong. Thanks! I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. Thank you, Amiann. In fact, it is the opposite. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . Thanks you, Jos. What does that mean? Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. I have seen it in a few people, only. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart).
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